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17 November 2013 @ 04:55 pm
The Thor II/Agents of SHIELD Two For One Post  
I was discussing the whole 'Coulson isn't dead anymore' thing elsewhere, but most of what I wanted to say drifted firmly into Thor II, so look! A real fannish post!

I've really thought, going along watching AoS, that Coulson's being alive would be due to some sort of magical reason. (Though, why it couldn't just be that Fury lied.) (I never believed Coulson was dead in Avengers. They wouldn't have called it within 10 seconds of the medical team getting there, for goodness sake!) (They took him to a trauma unit, and though touch and go, managed to save his life.) (But I guess that isn't comic booky enough.)So, magic, abracadabra, Coulson lives. There was a deleted scene from Thor where Eric was impaled with a big slice of plate glass window, and Thor used healing stones to fix him right up, so hard could Coulson be? By after the last episode, I'm afraid they're going with the Coulson as a robot thing, what do they call it? Life Model Decoy? That whole mission seemed like it was a test to see how he reacted to the situation. Like they weren't sure if he'd still respond like the human he was. Or maybe I'm being paranoid. If he does end up being a robot, I'm going to be seriously ticked off.

So back the the healing stones - since they cut them out of the movie, they aren't canon, and so couldn't be used to save Frigga, and why would they want to since the whole premise of the movie as far as Loki helping Thor depends on her dying. Not to mention, Thor could have 'saved' Loki with them. Bah! Which brings me around again to thinking Coulson is a robot. Which sucks. I'll feel cheated, thinking Coulson was alive, but instead, he's still dead.

As for Loki 'dying', I'm inclined to think he really did nearly die, but something in his Frost Giant nature saved him. I knew that guard that reported to Odin was Loki, but I never saw the end coming :D Now I wonder where Odin is, if he's even still alive (which I tend to think he is), and what's going to happen when Thor finds out. Loki as Odin as King of Asgard is just so ripe for epic stories. I'm sure they'll revisit it, just will have to wait longer than I want to!

Totally adored Sif in this, heck, all the Warriors Three.

Jane and the Soul Forge cracked me up, and Thor's reaction was awwww.

The funeral scene was magnificent, even though I'm still not happy about them killing off Frigga. I loved her character.

There should have been more Loki and Thor interaction. I was really surprised the movie wasn't even quite two hours. I suppose it's too much to hope for a directors cut. Just more deleted scenes tacked onto the DVD.

The middle of the credits scene: I was underwhelmed. Looked like a set from Classic Trek - was just waiting for Mudd's Women to show up. Don't get me wrong, I will go see Guardians of the Galaxy, and I'm hoping I'll like it more than I think I will, but at this point, I'm meh about the whole thing.

Was also bummed that we didn't get the ten minute preview of Captain America II I'd read was included in the IMAX showings. I thought there would at least be a trailer for it!

Looking forward to this weeks AoS, which deals with Thor II! Yay!!!

And now, I can finally write my Asgardian artifact and the Isla de Muerta story!

Okay, so that ended up being my Thor: The Dark World thoughts post as well.

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kimurho: Bernard the Elfkimuro on November 18th, 2013 12:07 am (UTC)
Haven't seen last week's episode yet, but I can't say as I'm surprised - I've been picking up subtext since the first episode that the Coulson in Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. may not be the Agent Coulson of the movies.
cincoflexcincoflex on November 18th, 2013 01:18 am (UTC)
I liked the movie quite a bit and talked it up in my own LJ post, but I have to 'fess up that I've dropped watching Agents of SHIELD at this point, so whether or not Coulson is a robot is moot. I go with my headcanon and I'm a happy camper that way.

I do wonder where Odin is--mostly likely NOT dead, despite Loki's hatred of him--and wouldn't it be a kick if Loki ended up being a decent ruler? Methinks he'll be bored out of his mind fairly quickly, but still it would be hilarious if he did well.

I found the preview for Winter Soldier to be sort of . . . grim, actually. I'm not all that thrilled by political thrillers and this looks to be eyeballs deep in conspiracies, etc. We'll see if other previews change my impressions.
Serafina: thor_loki smilesserafina20 on November 18th, 2013 03:08 am (UTC)
I think Odin went into Odin sleep (or something similar) due to all the trauma (losing Frigga, Thor and Heidall betraying him, and now Loki's dead) and Loki stashed him somewhere and took over. (I want to headcanon that Loki did it for good reasons, like to keep up pretense that Asgard is still strong and has its ruler, but... I don't know at this point).
Taxicab Messiahdonna_c_punk on November 18th, 2013 04:46 am (UTC)
Yeah that's what I remember from the New Mutants storyline, when they first went to Asgard. There was a big deal about certain gods running amok because Thor was in Midgard and Odin was in reparative stasis.
bleukittiebleukittie on November 18th, 2013 09:10 pm (UTC)
The thing I find amusing is if Loki has to imitate Odin to rule, then he has to make decisions, act, etc, like the real Odin, or else someone will start to suspect. That would be amusing as hell to watch.

And why was there no Loki funeral? or even body retrieval? Isn't that on Thor's to-do list?

I never read the comic books, but I guess an induced coma or Odin being stuck in the boonies is not out of the question.

I'm hoping Santa will bring me a blu-ray player for Christmas...