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20 July 2012 @ 06:24 pm
A Few Days?  
I'm looking at that Marvel Timeline of events leading up to Avengers, and it's confusing me. I wanted a general idea of how much time had passed since the end of Thor/IM II to the Avengers. 3 or 4 days? Really? That doesn't even make sense, so I must be reading their timeline wrong. [scratches head]

ETA: especially as Tasha says to Banner that he's gone a year without an incident. Looking at that timeline, that wouldn't fit.
kimurho: Bernard the Elfkimuro on July 20th, 2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
Perhaps it doesn't count as "an incident" if he's in control and doing it for right and justice? It does seem ridiculously tight, though.
Ithithildyn on July 20th, 2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
I think I'm missing something. More than likely :)
Cate: Avengers [insignia by justmybones]sheafrotherdon on July 20th, 2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
Forgive the random dropping in from friendsfriends - but the 'before the Avengers' bar at the end of the timeline represents an undetermined span of time. That's the catch all for the things that happened after the end of the previous movie timelines and before the Avengers happened. There's a lot of stuff in there - as you noted, there's Banner not having an incident for a year, and genius though he is, Tony's not going to have clean energy up and running just a few days after IM2. Steve's also got to defrost, wake up, and find an apartment. I'd say there's a good year in there, potentially more.
Ith: Media - RDJ Laughithildyn on July 20th, 2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
Welcome friend of friend! Okay, good. I figured I must be reading it wrong. Some of the last entries made it seem -- to me -- that it led right into Avengers.

Steve's also got to defrost, wake up, and find an apartment.

ROTFL! Funniest thing I've read this week!

Edited at 2012-07-21 03:37 am (UTC)
arenee1999 on July 20th, 2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
I'd say the "Before The Avengers" block covers quite a bit of time. Look at what's linked to it... Tony begins construction on Stark Tower. That size building will take some time to build and it's finished as Avengers begins. So, there's at least a year in there, possibly longer.
Ith: Avengers - Clint & Natashaithildyn on July 20th, 2012 11:38 pm (UTC)
There better be! LOL
ursus_trollkin: OldFashionedWayursus_trollkin on July 21st, 2012 02:09 am (UTC)
I agree with everyone else, that it's most likely been somewhere in the span of a year between the ends of the various Marvel Movies and the Avengers movie. Really just commenting because I thought you might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbf5Qv33rN8 I'm not sure of the accuracy of some of the times and order but it's enjoyable.
Ithithildyn on July 21st, 2012 03:37 pm (UTC)
Nice vid. Thanks.
Settiai: Natasha Romanoff -- quadratursettiai on July 21st, 2012 01:10 pm (UTC)
Based on the tie-in comic, Fury's Big Week, there has to be at least a year to a year-and-a-half in that "Before the Avengers" bar. That comic ends with an epilogue, set a year after the events of IM II/Hulk/Thor, where Fury tells Coulson that they've found Captain America in the ice. Add in time for Steve to be defrosted and at least start settling into the modern world (not to mention for them to finish the Asgardian-based gun that Coulson uses on Loki, which - in the epilogue - is still in development), and that pushes you to at least fifteen months as a minimum.
Ith: Avengers - Tasha B/Withildyn on July 21st, 2012 03:38 pm (UTC)
I got the first one of the series and that was as far as I got [g] I like 15 months. I think I was just too tired last night to comprehend anything.
Pantherapanthology on July 21st, 2012 10:20 pm (UTC)
That's got to be wrong. When Coulson is showing the 'I don't know what it does' gun to Loki he says, "We started working on it after you sent the Destroyer last year".

Also they've had time to amass a fair bit of 'Phase 2' technology (Fury: "Every piece of Phase 2, on a truck and gone.")
red_moon_ on July 22nd, 2012 06:56 am (UTC)
Well, Thor and Iron Man II have to be pretty close because in "Iron Man II" Coulson leaves his watchdog position in Tony's malibu mansion because of an incident in New Mexico - so at that point Thor and his hammer have already fallen onto earth.
So a lot of events of both movies are happening at the same time.

What is really not so clear to me is how much time passes between the events of "Iron Man II/Thor" and the discovery of Cap and the beginning of The Avengers.
In the chart that is simply described as "Before The Avengers"; maybe Tashas description of a year without an incident indicates that at least half a year has passed after "Iron Man II/Thor" and before Cap defreezes and so on.
blade_and_rosesblade_and_roses on July 24th, 2012 12:56 am (UTC)
I needed an excuse to go reread Fury's Big Week.

It looks like the IM2/Thor/Hulk episodes all occur in the same (really stressfully bad) week for Fury. Then a year later, according to the comic, they find Cap in the ice. At the same time, Phil's overseeing a test of the Destroyer that finally gets it to successfully fire, and he tells the team that they have to now dismantle the Destroyer and make it a hundred times smaller (into the gun we see him fire in Avengers, I presume). And Fury drops off Hawkeye at the remote Project Pegasus base and mentions Widow being in deep cover in Asia.

So I'd say, at a minimum, 15-18 months, maybe even another year. After all, we don't know how long after finding Cap he woke up; odds are that they kept him on ice for a bit then discovered he was still alive and then kept him in a medically-induced coma till they figured out what to do with him. And given that he seems fairly well-adjusted in Avengers (his line about nothing surprising him) he must have been awake for awhile at that point.

And they can't have gotten from the Destroyer to Phil's supergun in less than a few months. And Tasha had to move from 'asia' to Moscow following a trail, and of course, genius or not, it would take time to retrofit and configure Stark Tower for clean energy. And Selvig needs time to work on the Tesseract. The implication I took in Avengers is that he's been at it for a long time and only now is he getting anywhere. So. Minimum 15-18 months. Maybe even closer to 2 years.

Did I just out myself as a comic-book nerd who calculates timelines?

Edited at 2012-07-24 04:59 am (UTC)