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10 April 2010 @ 12:09 pm
Lewis Update  
Or 'the things we do for our furballs'.

He went back to the vet for tests and was there over night. The verdict: nothing physically wrong with him and his constant wetting over everything is behavioral. Our choices, limited. We can't go on like this. I discovered he'd been wetting against my new mattress/box spring, in addition to all the other places. Hate the idea of making him an outdoor cat around here, but maybe we could find him a home as a barn cat out in the country, I don't know. So after hundreds of dollars in vet bills, from getting him fixed, to having the surgery done he needed, to this last visit, he's been a very expensive stray. So there was much angst yesterday on what to do. Finally we decided on a middle measure, something I'd suggested a few years back that I could never get my mum to go along with, but this time, my brother was backing me, so then it was a good idea. Basically, I'd had the idea that the downstairs/family room area be turned into a place for our piddling inclined kitties, while the non piddling cats stay upstairs. We'd put a nice screen door, the kind with the windows, at the bottom of the stairwell, to separate the groups. We were going to do the downstairs floor as a stained cement one anyways, and the carpet's getting torn off, since it's disgusting, and the furniture down there is old. So Lewis, we can keep an eye on for a few more months and see if the situation improves, and if not, more time to try and come up with alternatives. So keep your fingers crossed t6hat this works.
Renee M Romero: sphynxeasilymused1956 on April 10th, 2010 07:46 pm (UTC)
Ah, I was going to share my experience when you first mentioned the problem. But I wanted to be hopeful.

I had an altered tom. Was neutered at 10 weeks. He still sprayed.

I had his older brother (a former breeding tom) who had been neutered at 3 years. He never sprayed. Not even when he WAS breeding.

Everything depends on the cat. And a sprayer will usually continue to mark territory no matter what.

The same holds true for a cat that pees in inappropriate places. Once they start, it's near impossible to break them of it.

The idea of having a cat room is sound. Many breeders do the same. It makes life a lot easier, I can tell you that for certain.

My cats could go outside into a fenced, roofed enclosure built on a 'mobile' carport. It was wonderful.

Good luck with the kitties.

Ithithildyn on April 10th, 2010 07:52 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was trying to be hopeful too :(

We hope one day to build an enclosed outdoor are for the kitties. I think they'd really enjoy it.
Renee M Romero: sphynxeasilymused1956 on April 10th, 2010 09:33 pm (UTC)
Depending on funding, and the outside space you have, you could always buy an enclosed gazebo. They usually have them available at CostCo, Sam's Club type places.

Just a thought.

Ithithildyn on April 10th, 2010 09:37 pm (UTC)
We were looking at some nice sheds, the wooden kind with windows and such. A gazebo would work too, though how do you get the cats from house to gazebo? An enclosed walkway? I was pondering building something along the lines of an enclosed porch out the back door, then could put a cat door in.
Renee M Romero: sphynxeasilymused1956 on April 10th, 2010 09:46 pm (UTC)
A porch is a really good idea. Or a Florida Room. With unupholstered furniture, you could spend time in it also.

pat: wc neal wonderingpat_t on April 10th, 2010 08:20 pm (UTC)
And a sprayer will usually continue to mark territory no matter what.

Yeah, kind of like men *grins*
Renee M Romero: kittenseasilymused1956 on April 10th, 2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
Yes. And unfortunately, some will continue to breed every female in sight. ::sigh::

Just like some men. Lalala

pat: wc neal smilepat_t on April 10th, 2010 08:21 pm (UTC)
It sounds like you came up with a great solution. Good luck.
Ithithildyn on April 10th, 2010 09:47 pm (UTC)
Thanks :)
lillie: alixlilliew on April 10th, 2010 08:25 pm (UTC)
Not sure if this would help either but one of my kitties (the one in the icon) was having this problem too for the longest time and I could never figure out why. Did the health check up too, etc. and found nothing wrong. Drove me nuts, especially because her favorite places were my bed (yuck, especially when you use a mattress underquilt or pad) and clothes. Through alot of trial and error, I figured out it was the litter box. She is very finicky about what kind (I had a littermaid and it wasn't big enough for her, got rid of it finally when it broke) and the kind of litter (has to be unscented or very lightly scented) and that it be kept very clean (scoop 2x a day) as well as placed in a quiet private place. She hasn't had an "accident" in a very long time now. You might consider if this is an issue, just in case. Some cats can just be very finicky about where they go.

It can help to restrict access and sometimes, they can hopefully learn where the right place to go and not is. But if it's a male-now-fixed cat used to spraying, he might not ever get over it. I do wish you luck though.

So good of you to take care of all these kitties.
Ithithildyn on April 10th, 2010 09:39 pm (UTC)
We have something like ten boxes of all descriptions all over, so it would be really hard to narrow down a problem like that. Though I have seen him use the litter box, just not enough LOL

Thanks :)
conjured_1: bryce01conjured_1 on April 10th, 2010 09:14 pm (UTC)
We had trouble with our fixed male tabby spraying. Worked with the vet, and we used valium for awhile and it worked, but left him just a blob. Vet then turned us onto Feliway, it's a pheromone based product, and I found a website that covers this and other solutions - http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-spraying-urine.htm

Hope for poor Lewis something works, but the separation could work well.
Ithithildyn on April 10th, 2010 09:25 pm (UTC)
I've never had any luck with feliway. I think it's because we have too big a house and so many cats. I tried it with the other cats we have that wet and zero effect. I've even tried that homeopathic flower thing that always pops up on cat managing websites because a freind swore by it. May as well have been using water.

Thanks, I hope something happens for him too.
Black Wolfdet_munch on April 11th, 2010 12:55 am (UTC)
That sounds like a reasonable idea. Are people going to be using the downstairs area as well or just the kitties? You may even consider getting rid of the furniture and getting pillows/cat beds, blankets etc that can be thrown into the washing machine regularly. Also perhaps a drain in the floor so you can rinse it down regularly, but I assume that would be pretty pricey
enchantersnight: Pussenchantersnight on April 11th, 2010 09:32 am (UTC)
Do hope everything works out for you and the kitties :(

I would so have adopted some if UK had been closer!