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13 April 2014 @ 04:56 pm
Been writing  
900 words into my series take on Winter Soldier. Only thing is that Bruce and 'Kermit' want to be included, and I know so little about the Hulk, that I'm not sure I can incorporate him into a story with action/violence/mayhem. I don't know the 'rules', I guess.

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Becca: Mark's Hulk by beccadgbeccadg on April 14th, 2014 12:02 am (UTC)
I'm sure it doesn't help that the 70's TV show called him "David" Banner, and it took three modern movies to finally get the character right. Mark is really great as Bruce, and Joss and he got how Bruce ticks so right.
Ithithildyn on April 14th, 2014 12:10 am (UTC)
I never saw the TV series, so my only exposure is Mark's portrayal. Well, I may just have to wing it :)
Mhalachai: !HP Decaf! (mhalachaiswords)mhalachaiswords on April 14th, 2014 12:18 am (UTC)
If Mark is all you have, go for it. His Hulk both captures the chaos and destructive side (helicarrier) as well as focused destruction (New York). Also most people only know his Hulk so you're good to go either way :D Good luck!!
Ithithildyn on April 14th, 2014 12:27 am (UTC)
I have a specific question that came up in regards to Winter Soldier - can I run it past you?
Mhalachai: !HP Voldie Books (mhalachaiswords)mhalachaiswords on April 14th, 2014 01:00 am (UTC)
Sure thing! send me a message or gmail me at mhalachai@ :D
Becca: Mark's Hulk by beccadgbeccadg on April 14th, 2014 01:08 am (UTC)
His Hulk both captures the chaos and destructive side (helicarrier) as well as focused destruction (New York).

Like I said, "Joss and he got how Bruce ticks so right."

Also most people only know his Hulk...

I was very young when the live action TV series first started, but I remember some of the series, and the made for TV movies that were done in the 80's and 90's with the TV character. Plus I've read some of the comic books, and I've seen both the Hulk movie done in 2003 with Eric Bana and the Hulk movie done in 2008 with Edward Norton. That's not even getting into any of the animated treatments of the Hulk that have been done. Lots of ways for people to know the Hulk besides the first Avengers movie. Better to say that, since she's writing Avengers fic, Mark's version is the version that matters most for it. That, and that given how little screen time Mark's Hulk has had, stuff done with him now is likely to get Joss'd down the line anyway.

Edited at 2014-04-14 05:44 am (UTC)
Becca: Loki Illustrated by beccadgbeccadg on April 14th, 2014 06:11 am (UTC)
I never saw the TV series, so my only exposure is Mark's portrayal.

Like I said to mhalachaiswords there are lots of ways to get exposed to the Hulk besides Mark's portrayal. The show was just one of many. The portrayal that you might want to see besides Mark's is Edward Norton's in the 2008 The Incredible Hulk. That is counted as a Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase One movie. It's in the "Complete Phase One" set. I think there's even a short that was part of the build up to the Avengers where SHIELD sent Tony to talk to the general about getting The Abomination for the Avengers Initiative. They sent Tony knowing the general would hate him, and not give them The Abomination. They just wanted to make sure the general would keep The Abomination locked up, having already decided they actually wanted Bruce Banner.

Well, I may just have to wing it :)

That's always an option, and people seem to be more accepting of it when someone is writing a crossover, fusion, or AU. I think they figure anything that doesn't seem to fit canon is a product of the combination/alteration. *Ponders.*
I_llbedammnedi_llbedammned on April 16th, 2014 03:57 am (UTC)
What sort of information are you looking for on him?
Ithithildyn on April 20th, 2014 07:04 pm (UTC)
Mostly can Hulk reason? I mean, for example, if a gun is being held to the head of friend, can he refrain from acting? Or is he going to get the friend killed? Or. same sort of situation, can Bruce stay Bruce so the friend isn't killed?
I_llbedammnedi_llbedammned on April 20th, 2014 07:09 pm (UTC)
It honestly depends on where in the Hulk's arc you catch him. In the beginning he has no control over it, he just kind of attacks everything that moves or whenever he gets angry.

But clearly by the time The Avengers comes around he has some control. I think that if they press him long enough he will snap, regardless of the safety of the friend from his transformation, because the monster within would overwhelm him. It's like he's constantly arguing with himself about whether or not he should do it. I think if his friend's life was in danger the voice within that would get him really angry would win.
Becca: 10th Doctor Certified Geek from ???beccadg on April 21st, 2014 12:16 am (UTC)
I think if his friend's life was in danger the voice within that would get him really angry would win.

I think who was being threatened and by whom would be as important as where Bruce was at with his control. There's...

Does Bruce see the threat as a serious threat?
Does Bruce see the person being threatened as seriously in danger from the person making the threat?

I mean in the Avengers Bruce says, "Avoiding stress isn't the secret," and "I wouldn't have come aboard if I couldn't handle pointy things." Getting Bruce to Hulk out isn't simply a matter of applying pressure.